I have never told this story to anyone before. My wife knows, but she was there.
Years ago when I was in theological school, Southwestern Baptist Seminary often held concerts in both the Bass Auditorium in downtown Ft. Worth and on the seminary campus in the auditorium.
The concerts every Christmas were the Ft. Worth Symphony Orchestra and the seminary chorus singing Handel's The Messiah. .
The first Christmas, Deb and I went.
After the my wife and I ran into people we knew separately in the foyer of the auditorium. And we were about 20 feet apart talking to our respective friends.
Deb had dressed fairly nicely for the concert. It was cold, so she wore a nice pull-over sweater, khaki in color, and a nice skirt, which was beneath her knees. This was a " Business Casual" event, so, no evening dress.
She had " Dolled-up" and was wearing make-up for the evening, and had on a pair of heels, nice necklace. Her clothing for the night was one of my favorite outfits for the time, as it made her look "Preppy."
Nothing too tight, nothing showing skin.
The foyer was full of seminarians.
As I spoke to my friend and Deb spoke to hers, I noticed two guy looking at my wife.
I didn't pay much attention to it at first, but the two guys were looking the entire time at my wife. And it wasn't a normal look.
They were ogling. And one turned to the other and said something to the other and both laughed.....I mean ogle. Look her up and down, and didn't stop.
It was the same look I've seem from some guys at a strip club.....Yes, I have been to a strip club. Went during a bachelor party. The groom wanted to go.
My one and only time. Most of the girls were either, those who enjoyed it because of the fast money. Others who had to do it for whatever reason, money most, boyfriend, husband, made them, had to pay for kids, they had to work there and it fairly paid well. The second group had sad eyes. They depressed me. I left the club, depressed.
In the crowd were guys who looked at the girls much like a dog looks at a bone.
This was the way, the two guys at the seminary were looking at my wife.
I'll admit, my wife can look good when she wants, and when she was in her 20s, she looked really good. ( I still think she's a cutie today.)
These two guys looked at her like " Man, I'd love to get a piece of ass from her."
I said good-bye in an awkward manner to my friend and walked over and stood between the two guys and my wife. They both sort of smiled and strolled away.
If it had been in another situation I may have said, or what I really wanted to do, pick up a folding chair and go " Jim Duggan" on both of them.
On the way home, my wife asked why they were staring at her. Naive Deb though she had something wrong, something had spelt on her, something was loose, etc....
No, I told her, those two just wanted to " Run a train on you." " You know, like a spit."
She hadn't a clue what that was.....Naive Deb....I had to explain and she said, " I didn't know how 2 guys did 1 girl, I thought they just " took turns." I said, " That too, but trains are what they generally want."
These 2 fine citizens were both theology majors at the seminary. One is now a "Lead pastor" at a fairly large church in San Antonio, the other has a denominational administration job in Arkansas.
This is not the only time I caught a seminarian ogling my wife, while on the grounds of the school. I saw one who couldn't take his eyes off her during another event. I was going over to say something when someone on the loudspeaker said, " Let's bless the event and our meal."
Now, I am not a jealous kind. I am really not. I understand when people " check someone out."
We are all human and whether you admit it or not, we've all checked someone out of the opposite sex. Males and females. It know Christ says it is a sin, but you know, if we were not attracted to the other sex, humanity would die out.
I've seen most of you who I taught " check-out" someone in Buna HS, my class, the hall, outside......Heck, I've even figured out when some of you were gay/lesbian when you gave a person of the same sex "that look. " It's not the same, especially, when you take a quick look at their butt, or breasts, or legs, or whatever and your eyes, well, they give it away..... And we all have look at someone of the opposite sex in that way( or the same sex for some of you), don't say you have not.
I let the situation cool down, or at least, let me cool down and went back after Christmas for the Spring Term.
The cafeteria at the seminary sells coffee like mad. there are huge colanders of coffee for seminarians to drink between classes.
One Wednesday and I remember the day of the week, I was sitting at a table when 4-5 students came, in older guys, all who were pastors at various churches in the area.
What was their topic? Roman's Road to Salvation? Paul's Letter to Ephesus? The Anne Armstrong Mission Fund?
No, how cute two of the females were in their religious education class. Both apparently blondes.
One even made the remark, "I'd like to bounce her on my knee." To which another guy said, "Yeah, me too."
That was a a sanitized statement of basically...." Man, I'd like to fuck her brains out."
Needless to say, I didn't finish my coffee and left.
This happened more than you care to know....
Look, a long time President of the seminary in Ft. Worth was finally fired after he covered-up sexual abuse of a music-religious-education minister. He helped the man move 4 churches in 4 states, 4 church jobs before the president, the denomination was not able to keep the man from being tried and sent to prison for sexual assault of an underage teen.
Look, there is something wrong with the Baptist denomination. Recently, a Baptist church gave a pastor a standing ovation after an affair because he had somehow confessed, never mind the woman, the woman involved will forever be seen as a Jezebel.
Look, if you are involved with females, and you are an adult male you need to make sure everything is above-board and in the open. ( As a teacher, with females, my door was always open.....Or we went out in front of those massive plate glass windows by the Senior End of the old BHS. The Cuss Porch, and with girls, and they females will tell you this, wasn't any bad words being said.....Now with boys....That's another story.)
And the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio News did a 3 part report on 700 people who were sexually abused by ministers, youth pastors, deacons, but the Southern Baptists have resisted doing anything about it.
( How many more were not reported?)
So, Kerry, Kerry Don, Mr. Thomas, Thomas, The Ole Govteach, what is your point here?
Don't trust ministers. Oh, you may have a "good one" or think you have a good one, but don't trust them. Watch your teenage children around them, boys and girls....Husbands, watch your wives. I'm sorry, but most of these guys, if they had the opportunity, they'd screw your wife, especially if they think they can get away with it. A lot of these guys are in a power trip.
And sex, well, that's part of this power trip.